Market participants tend to talk about the stock market as "always" bottoming before the economy. Such bullish arguments presently forecast the economic bottom to trough this fall and therefore argue that March 2009 was "the" stock market bottom this cycle, neatly 6 months in advance of the economy. This theory may prove correct in the end. Only the clarity of retrospect will tell us for sure a few years down the road.
But a risk now is that the "rule of thumb" about markets bottoming before the economy may not hold true this time. The most recent exception was the last downturn where the economic trough was November 2001 (now clearly defined in retrospect) and yet the stock market did not make a lasting bottom until February 2003 (15 months later). Part of the reason for this lag of the market bottom after the economy last time, was that the jobless, anaemic economic recovery disappointed those conditioned to expect a vigorous "V". Far from a robust bounce, in 2001-2004 we saw a timid, tepid start. It took a few years before over-juiced credit finally ignited mass speculation and the appearance of stronger growth.
The probability of a sluggish recovery this time is surely higher than after the tech wreck in 2000. This time we have a multi-asset, multi-country, financial crisis wreck. This time the savings rate is coming back in earnest as a shell-shocked consumer comprehends the importance of a savings buffer rather than just access to a line of credit.
This time people already have too much credit, they don't want more. This time the masses already own multiple-real estate or too much house, they wish to downsize not lever into more. This time the economic recovery is more likely to be slow and plodding, blurred in the outset by durable unemployment and wiser, more modest consumers.
There is a risk that those that have been piling back into the stock market the past couple of months, may not be prepared for the long, hard, slog back to economic health. I suspect this is a marathon, not a sprint. Reducing over-capacity, building up savings and equity are the foundations of our future sustainable growth, but none of this is as easy as throwing more credit around.
These will be healthy developments in the longer term—they make me longer-term more optimistic--, but in the next year or two, masses weaned on quick growth and easy money may not be mentally prepared for this course. Regular income more than capital gains may be the “trick’ for a while.
This recent Bloomberg interview with Roubini makes some valuable points on what the “new normal” growth may look like over the coming recovery.
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Re: Preparing our expectations for the recovery
According to business cycle research, after deeper recessions the recovery/expansion have a tendency to spring back much stronger.
The recent recession had a -30 reading on the ECRI scale versus -10 during the 2001 recession. Also this time inventory levels were much more lower than at the previous recession, because of this, actually this recession was avoidable at the end of 2007 with prompt stimulus package. The pent up demand will be higher this time, we need some consumer confidence to ignite the expansion. Re: Re: Preparing our expectations for the recovery
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daniellepark
on Thu 28 May 2009 07:32 AM EDT | Profile | Permanent Link
That would be great, I hope we see a quick recovery.
The overhang from the financial crisis is the wildcard this cycle. Re: Re: Re: Preparing our expectations for the recovery
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Attila Balazs
on Fri 29 May 2009 12:49 AM EDT | Profile | Permanent Link
Yes, you are right, the overhang, specially the toxic assets on banks balance sheets. I'm kind of worried what happens if prospective buyers only offer some 10-25 cents on the dollar to buy them, and banks won't sell them because the low offer.
Are we talking about 2 trillion? What if banks will be nationalized? What kind of US inflation are we expecting? Hyper?? The ECRI future inflation gauge already bottomed. The future looking housing price index started firming. Note: NOT the Case / Shiller, that's pretty useless. Re: Preparing our expectations for the recovery
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BigAl
on Thu 11 Jun 2009 01:00 PM EDT | Profile | Permanent Link
Most of the Canadian banks have passed their 200 MA the last few weeks, and seem to be going higher every day. Could it be that we've bottomed, or do you think that this will be a long summer?
Re: Re: Preparing our expectations for the recovery
The US economy have bottomed this year sometime between end of March and middle of May.
Probably a year from now NBER will anounce the official date when the recession actually ended in the US, most likely during or at the end of this summer. I don't have data for the Canadian economy, but most likely lagging, my educated quess is 6-9 months. |
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